出力不討好還被各種辱罵,裁判的心理問題應該得到更多關注和尊重?

美國JRS之聲2019-04-14 02:06:02

[MacMullan] NBA's mental problem, pt. 4: Yelled at, spit on and insulted: Inside the life of an NBA ref

NBA心理問題探查第四部分——被咆哮、被唾罵、被侮辱:走近NBA裁判的生活



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[–]94savage 1261 指標 11小時前

There is where r/nba support of mental illness ends

大結局了,話題區對關注心理疾病的呼籲到此為止了。


[–]BucksDjhsjdofnfn 466 指標 10小時前

All you have to do is imagine Draymond Green as the one yelling and spitting and we’re right back on

你只需要想象朝裁判吼叫和吐口水的那個人是追夢格林,那我們馬上就能重燃熱情了。


[–]ConstantFlyght 103 指標 9小時前

Then Draymond comes out about his mental issues

結果追夢站出來傾訴他的心理問題?


[–]Lakersnigg_a 167 指標 9小時前

“I’m obsessed with balls man. I can’t help myself”

湖人球迷:“唉,我實在是沉迷蛋蛋,我控計不住我寄幾啊。”


[–][GSW] Mike DunleavyLebronsHairline25 32 指標 8小時前

R/nba calls him gay then

勇士球迷:那估計話題區會説他是基佬。


[–]Thunderjoshis_ 86 指標 8小時前

pot calling the kettle gay

雷霆球迷:基喊捉基?


[–]RuzamaCrvenim 59 指標 10小時前

Remember when a ref wanted to square up with Sean Livingston of all people

還記得有個裁判竟然想跟肖恩-利文斯頓幹架,那可是李文啊!


[–][GSW] Andre IguodalaSirPopePopoIII 32 指標 9小時前

Lol, the ref moved into him, then gave him a tech for the contact. I won't say being a ref is any easy job, but part of the job is not to lose your cool and instigate.

勇士球迷:哈哈那個裁判主動走向李文,然後因為李文“衝撞裁判”而給了一個T。我不是説裁判好當,但是保持冷靜不挑事也是裁判的分內職責啊。


[–][MIN] Tom GugliottaTheTrenchMonkey 78 指標 9小時前

Livingston was trying to intimidate the guy and then lowered his head into him to drive the point home.

I get that we want them to deescalate situations, but Shaun was out of line.

利文斯頓當時是想震懾裁判,他低頭用腦門頂了裁判來表明態度。

我理解裁判應該是息事寧人的調節者,但是利文斯頓那次過分了。




[–]Celticscelticsfan34 112 指標 9小時前

Everyone was surprised when Demar said he had depression. It was seen as a great leap forward when Kevin Love admitted to having panic attacks. Reading about Shane Larkin’s OCD made me sympathize with him a lot more.

Then Joey Crawford admitted to having anger issues, and everyone was left wondering why this was news-worthy.

德羅贊説自己患有抑鬱症的時候大家都很震驚。樂福承認自己患恐慌症的時候大家都覺得這是球員敞開心扉的一大步。讀到肖恩-拉金患強迫症的新聞讓我與他有了更多的同感。

然後當喬伊-克勞福德表示自己有易怒的問題,大家居然又都覺得這事不算新聞。


On a serious note, anger problems can be a serious mental health concern and it’s great seeing them talked about explicitly that way. Also, don’t yell at refs.

説句認真的,易怒可能是很嚴重的心理問題,看到這個問題被擺在枱面上説確實是件好事。另外,別衝着裁判吼叫了。


[–]Raptorsneobowman 134 指標 9小時前

The refs have the worst of it. There are no fans of refs. Every fanbase thinks the refs are enemies and blow every call. There are no letters of support or Twitter messages of thanks.

裁判是受害最深的羣體。裁判沒有球迷,每支隊伍的球迷都敵視裁判,覺得每個判罰都有問題。從來沒有人寫感謝信,或者發推感謝裁判。


[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME 46 指標 5小時前

i am a fan of refs

i always tell this sub how much i hate the culture in the nba where its ok for players to blatantly disrespect refs. i usually get downvoted for it

i also own a tony brothers jersey

我就是裁判的粉絲。

我總是發帖説我不喜歡NBA的這種允許球員公然蔑視裁判的文化,然後我經常被滅。

我還有一件Tony Brothers的球衣呢。[譯註1]

[譯註1]Tony Brothers是著名NBA裁判,曾有過大量爭議判罰。





[–]Celticsdumbassfromboston 302 指標 10小時前

As somebody who has reffed low-level basketball for a number of years, this was a good read. You really do take a remarkable amount of shit - players, coaches, parents, you name it - and it's not always easy to deal with.

我做了很多年低水平賽事的裁判,我覺得這篇文章寫得真的很不錯。裁判真的會被噴個狗血噴頭——來自球員,教練,球員家長等等,而且是真的不好消化。


[–][PHI] Allen IversonConfusedAlgernon 202 指標 9小時前

No imagine that on the fucking NBA - scale. Media joining in. 7 ft 240 pound guys instead of lil' Bobby and 20000 people literally preferring a beheading of your beaten body over you continuing to ref a meaningless game between the Hawks and Kings in fucking January.

在NBA的層面上就更難了。一堆媒體在攪混水。你面對的是兩米多高兩百多斤的壯漢而不是一堆小屁孩。外加兩萬名觀眾,他們是真的想把你暴揍一頓然後砍下你的腦袋,而不是看你繼續吹罰一場老鷹和國王在一月份打的毫無意義的比賽。


[–]IAmADopelyLitSavage 66 指標 8小時前

ref a meaningless game between the Hawks and Kings in fucking January.

Excuse me, no games in the NBA are meaningless

“吹罰一場老鷹和國王在一月份打的毫無意義的比賽”?

恕我直言,NBA沒有一場比賽是毫無意義的。


[–]RocketsHunteraln 156 指標 8小時前

Yeah there has to be a battle for 1st pick

是啊,狀元籤的爭奪戰很激烈呢。




[–]WizardsPickMyCherryStat 172 指標 10小時前

And of course David Stern is described in there verbally abusing an employee.

文章裏描述大衞-斯特恩對員工進行言語欺凌啊,我怎麼一點也不驚訝呢。


[–][LAL] Kobe BryantDongsquad420BlazeIt 73 指標 9小時前

Fuck David Stern

湖人球迷:CTMD大衞-斯特恩。


[–][MIA] Dwyane Wadebluesoul 22 指標 8小時前

Stern and Joey are long-time friends. They joined the NBA I think the same year back in the late 70s. I wouldn't read too much into it.

斯特恩和克勞福德是老朋友了。我記得他們應該是在70年代的某一年同時進入NBA。別過度解讀啦。


[–]ThunderTheGhostofSwitzer 38 指標 8小時前

I will say there's an advantage, I've had managers like that. The ones that yell at you rarely officially write you up for anything. Your record is clean. My nicer managers will just write you up, that's all they know how to respond.

Give me the verbal abuse over the write ups any day. But that's me and my experience anyways.

我覺得這不無好處啊。我也有過這樣的領導。那些會責罵我的領導反而很少打我的小報告。所以你的記錄是乾乾淨淨的。那些態度好的領導就會打你的小報告,他們只會這樣處理問題。

我無論何時都更寧願領導批評我而不是向上級打我的報告。不過這也只是我個人看法和個人經歷而已哦。


[–][MIA] James PoseyCudizonedefense 50 指標 7小時前

Well those are quite the extremes lol. There is a middle ground. I prefer my managers talk to be like an adult instead of berating me like a petulant child throwing a tantrum

樓上這例子舉得太極端啦。還是有個平衡點的。我希望我的領導能成熟穩重地跟我交流,而不是像暴躁的小孩亂髮脾氣一樣臭罵我。




[–]CelticsRashloose 101 指標 9小時前

I always wondered how mentally stable you have to be to handle constant harassment by players

我一直好奇,你得多淡定才能安然應對來自球員持續的各種騷擾。


[–]MisterE2k14 63 指標 9小時前

... And coaches and fans

……以及教練和球迷。


[–]Pistonsrake2204 24 指標 9小時前

It takes the kind of thick skin I'm not sure I have. Even middle school officiating seems like the worst to me. Officials never call perfect games, which means they always do at least one thing wrong a game (usually much more), which means at least half of a given gym or arena, at any given time, feels vindicated in verbally abusing them for their imperfection, however fleeting that imperfection may have been.

這種厚臉皮我應該是沒有。就算是吹罰中學的比賽對我來説也已經夠難受的了。裁判不可能做出完美的判罰,也就是説每場比賽裏他們至少會犯一次(一般會更多)錯誤,這意味着無論在什麼時間,什麼場地裏,總有一半的人覺得因為裁判犯了錯誤,所以自己有正當理由對裁判進行言語攻擊。無論這個錯誤有多麼微不足道。


[–][MIA] James PoseyCudizonedefense 29 指標 7小時前

Bro even when you make the correct call, half the people hate you.

People on this sub in the finals were upset that the refs made a correct call on that Lebron block charge play. To be fair, some were upset that the refs used a shady tactic to initiate a review to overturn it but every time I even had he audacity to ask why it was a bad thing that the refs got the call right, I was downvoted to oblivion

老哥,就算你做出正確的判罰,也總會得罪一半的人啊。

論壇裏的人都對於總決賽裏裁判正確判定老詹阻擋犯規很不滿。説真的,有些人還覺得裁判是耍陰招,通過看錄像來翻案。但每次我壯着膽問大家為什麼裁判做出正確的判罰反而成了壞事,都會被一滅到底。


[–]Raptorsrandommaniac12 59 指標 9小時前

Man being a ref sucks sometimes. I'm a soccer ref in Ontario and man it's not usually the players that are bad, it's the parents and coaches especially at the younger ages. At 14+ it's the players god do I hate parents who assume any contact is an immediate foul

老哥,當裁判有時候真的很難受。我在安大略州當足球裁判,一般態度惡劣的都不是球員,而是球員的父母和教練,在低齡賽事裏尤甚。在14歲以上的比賽裏球員的問題才多起來。蒼了天了,我是真的討厭那些一看到身體接觸就覺得有犯規的家長。


[–]BucksFrogman417 64 指標 9小時前

People really need to remember that refs are people too, and while they will make bad calls from time to time, you shouldn't go mental on them.

大家都需要記住,裁判也是人,偶爾也會做出錯誤的判罰,我們不應該傷害他們的心靈。


[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 61 指標 9小時前

I think it was Walt Frazier who said that refs make mistakes and that’s why he never got mad. If they missed a call that would have benefitted him he didn’t scream in their face because sooner or later they would make a call that benefitted him. Refs were never out to get him like some of these players today think

我記得是沃爾特-弗雷澤這樣説過,裁判會犯錯誤,這也正是他從不因為判罰而生氣的原因。如果裁判漏判了一個本來對他有利的犯規,他不會衝着裁判吼叫,因為裁判們遲早會再吹一個。裁判那會兒也從來不會故意找他的事,可不像現在這些球員想象的那樣。



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